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Contents 1 Server Information Category 2 Equipment to Items 3 Dungeons / Instances 4 Frequently used acronyms category? 5 ToK & more 6 New group? 7 Categorization policy 8 Main page update requests

Server Information Category

Thinking there should be a category here on the main page discussing servers. Later can be expanded upon to list all of the active servers --Kros 22:16, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

Equipment to Items

Since there is no where on the front page to find out about items, and Equipment doesn't really cover certain items, perhaps Equipment should be changed to Items? --Callagan 05:21, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

What items are you thinking of that wouldn't be equipment? Aiiane 08:31, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Technically, ingredients, potions, and quest items wouldn't be considered equipment. Just to nit pick, equipment is usually considered things you equip, which would limit it to weapons, armor, and trinkets, etc. --Booz

I agree with Booz. Something like:

* Items

* Equipment

* Weapons

* Armor

* Consumables

would be good. It gives a bit of hierarchy to the information (similar to the game itself). Consumables could have sub-categories as well (pots, mats, etc). --Illurim 00:50, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

For now, Items is linked on the main page. If it looks like consumables and/or a weapons/armor breakdown would be useful, I'll add it, but for now let's just go with Equipment and Items from the main page - don't want to clutter it too much if we don't have a good reason. Aiiane 07:29, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Dungeons / Instances

There are three dungeons per City. Can someone insert a page and I will add the info?

Add them to the Major Landmarks list on the Altdorf page if you want to. Naphtha 02:38, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Frequently used acronyms category?

There are a few WAR specific acronyms that are starting to come about, adding to conventional MMORPG acronyms and shorthands. While some are obvious to those that play WAR (like PQ = Public Quest), it may be a good idea to make a category page listing them for the new and inexperienced player.

Anyone else of this opinion? --SpareChange 22:41, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

A page of acronyms/definitions would be quite useful to players not only new to WAR but new to MMO's in general. I reckon go for it. I'm happy to help with it. --Illurim 00:52, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Category:Terms. Go for it. To include something in the category, just put [[Category:Terms]] anywhere in the page code (preferably at the bottom, for ease of access - it doesn't actually make a link there so the exact location doesn't matter. Redirect pages should always have the category placed after the redirect, or else it will break it). Aiiane 01:29, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

ToK & more

The Main Page has double info. On the left side we have the ToK and its sub-categories and on the right we have History & Lore and Achievements with its sub-category. In my opinion, we should merge everything and put it all under the ToK to try to prevent unnecessary pages. Kvinna 20:43, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

The links lead to the same places, so there aren't any actual "extra pages". It's just a faster way for people who are looking specifically for Lore-related info, versus those who are just browsing various features of the Tome of Knowledge. Aiiane 21:03, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Actually a few of them went to pages that have categories already created with all the content already done. I did change some links to make them go to the same spot, but each time I do that I see another page created and people working hard on the page when its category has everything already listed. Examples: Category:Bestiary vs. Bestiary, Category:Noteworthy Persons vs. Noteworthy Persons. There are a few more but that's the gist. If that's how it's supposed to be, that's cool. Just didn't see a point to it since these pages are already created and being worked on. Kvinna 21:31, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

It's one of those congruity issues. Some people see it in their head as one thing, and others see it as a whole other thing. It's like my example with Finubar, and the name I created on the Altdorf page, but I made sure to link my page name to the Finubar one. The problem is, there are a lot of people who really want to help, but don't know the coding. I catch on super-fast, so I can see where I screwed up on some things. You know the saying, "The road to hell is paved with good intentions."Naphtha 21:54, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

If there's a case where you think people might go to one page name looking for something that's already created as another name, add a redirect from the first to the second. To make a redirect, just create the page for the term you want to redirect, and put nothing in it except the following:

 #REDIRECT [[Page Name Goes Here]]

(If you're linking to a category, remember to put the extra : in front of Category so it makes it a link to the category instead of including the redirect page in that category.)

Hope that helps! Aiiane 23:06, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

New group?

It would be nice to have some highlight pages that can be rotated through on a regular basis. Something to get people excited, and visiting the site, drawing more people to update pages that may not be as complete.

For instance, we could have a highlight with say Troll Country, Altdorf, Tome Rewards, and Titles listed in it, with a blurb about them.

Obviously we would use pages that are very complete, and have a lot of good information, to draw people in and have them share with their friends saying, "Hey, check this site out, they have a ton of information!".

There are many pages that are lacking information, and could use a good udpate, and those would not be good highlight pages, but if we had a few really good pages than we could highlight them, and draw people in.

Just a thought. Naphtha 21:25, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Sounds like a decent idea. Why don't you add an example to Main Page/editcopy? Aiiane 21:26, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Uh... I'm scared to edit the main page? Hehe. OK, let me write some things down, and give me like an hour, to iron everything out so I don't link to www.icanhascheezburger.com, or something, by accident? Naphtha 21:50, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Ugh, I am so not good with all the merge/width/align things... I know the basics so far, but the template of it would kill me. Suppose I can draw it out as plain text, and show you? Or heck, I can even paintbrush my idea, and store it as a link? Naphtha 22:16, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

"I'm scared to edit the main page?" - that's why the editcopy exists - it's a separate page that serves as a "working draft" for the main page; changes there won't show up on the main page until a sysop (generally me) syncs them over. As far as the formatting stuff goes, I'd suggest just copying an existing section and duplicating it, modifying the text as need be. Or just put an unformatted version on the editcopy and ask someone to touch it up. Aiiane 23:09, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Still working on it. I want the pages linked to have no red links down a level, or it will kind of ruin the whole idea.Naphtha 16:37, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Categorization policy

I'm new to Wiki editing. I see some things listed as Categories (e.g. Category:Scenarios) which have page text that essentially fill the role of having a normal page, but because the page is a category it doesn't show up on default search and the content on the category page is not searched either! Try searching for "Bombing Run". You won't get anything by default, even though it's in the Category:Scenarios page content. You'd have to search, get no results, then expand your search to the Category namespace. I think this is something your typical user is not going to routinely do.

The only point of this seems to be to get that unsorted category index at the bottom of the page, but the huge drawback is that it necessitates a redirect just to support searching for the content. Every single term of interest would have to be manually redirected because the content of the category page is not searched.

Would it be better to move content out of the page text of Category pages and into their own pages? Should Categories be used only for indexing and not for significant content additions? What's the policy on this?

I think it might be simpler to have the category namespace in the default list of namespaces to search. I'll look into getting it added. Aiiane 03:33, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Main page update requests

I made some changes to travel-related pages, so the subcategories on the front page could use an update. I think the "Renown" article belongs somewhere on the front page now too. The "Keep Siege" article also has all-new information and may belong under the RvR or Battlefields subsection, although a reorg of the keep-related information may be necessary first.

Make changes on the Main Page/editcopy to propose them; if they're viable they'll be synced to the main page. Aiiane 19:51, 29 October 2008 (UTC)